Hillary Clinton says Tulsi Gabbard is a 'Russian asset' groomed to ensure Trump reelection

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  1. iceberg

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  2. JoeKing

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    Tulsi is no Russian asset, she's just a Dem that won't conform to the far lefts wacky agenda. She not conservative enough for me to ever vote for in a general election but I wish her the best of luck in the primary.
     
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  3. tabascocat

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    If anything, Gabbard got a lot of recognition from Killary to boost her image. It also further proves the Russian hoax and who is behind it.
     
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  4. speedkilz88

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  5. iceberg

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    i need to pay more attention to tulsi. she knows the dems have gone off the rails and seems to want to bring that back. we need our ying and yang to get along in some form and since the extremes took over, that doesn't fit their own agenda.

    behaving in a constant state of extreme is not healthy for anyone.
     
  6. superonyx

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    Wrong. She won't conform to the warmongers on both parties regime change agenda.
    They want to keep us in never ending wars. Both parties.
     
  7. superonyx

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    You do need to pay more attention. Tulsi is a single issue candidate (for the most part) but her issue is to keep us out of these never ending wars.
    We have been in Afghanistan going on 18 years in response to 9/11 when 11 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.
     
  8. speedkilz88

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    Terrorist come from all over, especially the middle east. The actual terrorist group led by Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan.
     
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  9. superonyx

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    Bin Laden was in Pakistan. Bin Laden was from Saudi Arabia. The terrorist that attacked us on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia.
    Bin Laden and his group all grew up with saudi government taught Wahhabism. Al Quida was formerly the US backed, trained and funded mujaheddin. The Saudi government threaten the US when legislation was introduced that would allow victims families from 9/11 to sue the Saudi government for their part in 9/11. Look this stuff up. It will make you sick.

    So what does the US do?

    We attack Iraq? Iraq? Hussein and Bin Laden were not even ideologically aligned in any capacity.
    We spend trillions (I think its now 6 trillion) blowing up sand in a country that didnt attack us. The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11.

    When you hear that we spent 6 trillion dollars where did that money go?
    To the pockets of the military industrial complex. Not the soldiers who are being paid nothing or near nothing.
    We spend trillions enriching companies like Raytheon and Boing and the rest of the "defense" contractors.

    Eisenhower warned us about this in his exit speech. He told us then that the military industrial complex was a threat and every dollar spent was essentially a theft to the American people.



    Our destruction of Iraq is what led to the rise of Isis. When millions of young men have no functioning economic system, no jobs, no hope they radicalize. We killed an estimated 600k iraqi citizens directly and indirectly since our invasion. How many young boys in Iraq watched their mothers, baby sisters, grandmothers die due to our unprovoked invasion of their country? Is it so surprising they may radicalize?
     
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  10. speedkilz88

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    The terrorist were in Afghanistan, he eventually hid out and was found over the border in Pakistan years later. It's still the same area.

    We've had homegrown terrorist from Michigan & Minnesota. I guess you want to go to war with them instead as well
     
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  11. superonyx

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    Sorry man but here is something to think about.
    The Taliban offered to hand us Bin Laden.
    Bush rejected it because he wanted to go to war with Iraq.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20011014/aponline135016_000.htm

     
  12. superonyx

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    I'm not sure which homegrown terrorist you are speaking of?
    Isis sympathizers or White Nationalist? FBI considers the Far Right White Nationalist one of the biggest threats we have domestically.

    I'd be interested in discussing why either of these groups radicalize and what we could do about it.
     
  13. speedkilz88

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    Isis you idiot. We have are own radical imams in Michigan & Minnesota.
     
  14. superonyx

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    Do you know anything about Isis?
    I don't remember all of these Isis related terrorist attacks in the US. How many years has it been since the last one?

    Now far right White nationalist are a bigger threat. Why are you not concerned with the terrorist group killing more of us and growing?

    Do you have any idea why al quada even attacked us? My reading how low brow your posting has become once challenged I am going to assume you have no idea. You probably think it was for some made up reason like Freedom or Liberty.
     
  15. JoeKing

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    First... Welcome to the forum. It's never personal here but we do speak our minds.

    I agree with what you said but if you want to tell me I'm wrong then you better follow up with points that are contrary to mine. You did none of that. Gabbard doesn't subscribe to the extreme left socialist agenda. That is my point. If you think I'm wrong then I invite you to explain why.
     
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  16. superonyx

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    Thanks Joe. I enjoy the exchange of ideas.
    I owe you an apology for the "wrong" part. I was responding to the "wacky far left" part.
     
  17. superonyx

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    I think this place could use a little independent leaning person like myself.

    My ideas are only considered independent because I refuse to identify with either party when neither truly represent the peoples interest anymore.

    Superpacs, Money is speech, ect has created 2 parties that both take from the same economic elites. I call it as I see it and that makes me all over the map for my ideas. Fox News, Cnn, MSNBS.... all elite propaganda machines for the corrupt system that has taken over.
     
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  18. JoeKing

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    "Wacky far left" is my own opinion. Surely you will grant me the latitude of my own opinion. I too enjoy the exchange.
     
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  19. iceberg

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    there are a lot of policies i don't agree with her on and does get pretty liberal. but when she has the "sack" to take on hillary and call her what she is and see the party for what they are doing?

    that, to me, is the first step in ending all this madness and finding compromise again. trump damn sure isn't going to do it. he's having too much "fun" these days. i do feel we're far better off than of hillary had won and what trump is finding about the crap they did with billions in the ukraine, go after ANYONE on ANY SIDE who broke laws and prosecute.

    end of story. this my side can do it but yours can't is so grade school it hurts.
     
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  20. Kevinicus

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    The whole "the terrorists were born in SA" is one of the dumbest argumemts the left has come up with in my lifetime. That's saying something.
     
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