Discussion in 'Pro-Liberal Discussions' started by amberbeer, Oct 1, 2016.
And what word have I given you, that I have not stood behind now?
Is it just me or is this one of the most outspoken Popes we have ever had? The Popes I know about usually were low key and low profile. But not Pope Francis!
not been a practicing catholic in several decades but the ones i do know don't care for him much.
He's very outspoken and very politically minded, it would seem. This is actually interesting because the Bible is very specific about this. Psalm 33:12 tells you what the position of the Church should be:
“Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people whom he has chosen as his heritage!” Render unto Caesar what is his, but we must obey the law but know God is the ultimate ruler. "
and in John, 18:36:
" My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
In both of these verses, and there are more contained in the Bible, it is clear that Christianity is not to be involved in Politics of any given country. That is of man, according to scripture. God's word is above this, according to the Bible. I don't know what to make of this guy.
That I contradicted my previous statements all the time. This is why I say you have issues reading. A quick review using the arrow next to the quote's author feature should ahve made it quite easy to figure out if you could not remember.
You made several accusations about my method. I repudiated with examples. You claim I contradicted that previously. Now you dissemble into nonsense rather than stand by your word.
and this is why many catholics are upset. not for his own stances but in that he's speaking for the church in these matters.
no he didn't.
there. i must be right cause i said it first.
i show you contradictions all the time - you just choose to redefine the question.
So, what you are saying to me is that I've broken my word, to you, because "you" contradict your previous statements all the time? Is that what you contend, or are you having problems reading again?
So what I'm getting out of this is that I've not given you my word and you claiming that I have is just some BS you threw out there. Is that essentially where we are at here?
looks like it to me.
Boxboy is just another insult directed towards you in a disrespectful manner.
thought it was like the pissboy in history of the world part 2.
Yeah, I know but it's cool. I don't really fret about it much. I know what's going on there. People will judge me,and Fuzzy, based on what they read and how we conduct ourselves. I am OK with that.
LOL.... Certainly feels like it sometimes.
Most Catholics I know are not happy with this Pope.