Soup of the Day

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by JoeKing, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. JoeKing

    JoeKing Well-Known Member

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    Just thought I would start a thread that isn't necessarily about any specific general politics topic that applies to a thread already started but relevant in current events. It's a catch-all that prevents a thousand other threads from being open for just a few days. If you have some relevant general political commentary you'd like to share and it doesn't fit in a thread already open, then share it here. I'll give it a shot so you get where I'm coming from. Maybe the mods could sticky post this so it remains on top.


    Today the President of the United States is in Viet Nam to meet with the Chairman of North Korea. You'd think that would be important enough to the entire American government to support those efforts. After all, if the President succeeds, the whole country succeeds, right? So how does Nancy Pelosi and the Dems in the House show their support? They have chosen this day of all days of the year to interrogate the President's former attorney(who's already been convicted of lying to Congress) in the hopes of digging up dirt on the President. It couldn't be put off until next week. No, they would rather give the President this additional distraction while he's trying to carry on high-level negotiations about the de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula. It's an unprecedented act by Congress intentionally meant to show how little respect the Dems have for the office of the President doing the work of the people of this nation. They can not claim they hope he is successful in the slightest and so they are turned up to "10" of the Trump resistance scale 24/7. And the mainstream media doesn't even point out this nuance of the Dems strategy because they are complicit with the Trump resistance movement.
     
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  2. tabascocat

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    It is a clown show. Dems blocked a bill to keep a botched abortion alive while two anti-gun laws are working their way through congress.

    Cohen is a proven liar who now the Dems will believe every word he says today after railing on him earlier.

    Also, I fully believe that this "leaking" of the Mueller report being released was just a distraction to Trump-Kims meeting until the Cohen hearing took precedence. It was never going to be finished up and will go on for several more months, if not another year or so until the next election.
     
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    The Declaration of Independence bears witness to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" as unalienable rights. It's stated right there that these born people(babies) have the right to life. How can the Dems deny this?
     
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    One thing is clear from this hearing: The Dems are shifting from collusion(because nothing is there) to financial discrepancies and they will look into everything going back to who knows how long ago. The next big push will be getting his tax returns.
     
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    The Division Bell

    No, I'm not talking about the Pink Floyd album of the same name. I'm referring to the state of American politics since the election of Barack Obama a decade ago. The dichotomy of Repubs reaction to that election and Dems reaction to Donald Trump is like night a day. Dems were very public with the disappointment and I guess, heartbreak over the results of the 2016 election. Never before have I witnessed a political party react in solidarity to the results of an election in such a negative way. But I will admit, I understood where they were coming from. Just 8 years earlier, I felt much the same way... disillusioned with everything I thought this country was about. I even wrote a letter to myself so I would never forget those feelings because of course, I knew I would forget. I would get over it and move on. But Dems didn't do that. No, it seems they have felt that same way every day since then and will never get over those feelings... that is the dichotomy I'm talking about. Everything the Dems say or do from that point on is about undoing that election because they cannot accept that it happened. They don't understand that Repubs were just as disappointed 8 years prior but we got over it and moved forward... as adults do. In contrast, all the Dems and their cohorts in the mainstream media have done for over two years is ring the division bell.
     
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  6. cml750

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    It has been a two year temper tantrum from the left. The media is as much to blame about this as anyone. They will not let it go and has pushed the phony Russian collusion narrative trying to make the already fragile snowflakes believe the election was illegitimate in some way. Sadly far too many people have lost the ability to think for themselves instead they let the talking heads form every single opinion and thought they have.

    The 2012 election taught me what it was to sit in an echo chamber listening to confirmation bias daily. I vowed to never let that happen again. It is easy to see an echo chamber once you realize they exist. The left has had the constant "Orange Man Bad" one going since November 2016. They try to point to Trump being racist and constantly push the narrative that he won illegitimately. It is no wonder they feel like they do. It will be even harder for them to take when Trump likely wins re-election in 2020. Some may even be suicidal especially when Trump gets to fill another SCOTUS vacancy or two.
     
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    Nancy Pelosi has scheduled a vote in the House to condemn anti-semitism but failed to mention the member of her party that is a repeat offender of anti-sematic comments and has failed to properly hold that representative accountable. Just another example of the weak leadership from Nancy Pelosi.
     
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    Looks like AOC funneled her a big piece of the pie to her boyfriend and an LLC while eating that darn, immoral hamburger :p
     
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    I heard about this on the radio so for two days I've been waiting for the details to be mentioned on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC but they are saying nothing about it. So I finally had to turn my TV to Fox News to finally hear someone talking about it. Exclusive

    Ocasio-Cortez denies dark-money allegations in FEC complaint: ‘There is no violation’
     
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    Great minds think a like, but I said it first, Mark.
     
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    Apparently, the House vote to condemn anti-Semitism has been delayed until the resolution is updated to include anti-Muslim bias. I should have seen this coming. Watering down this resolution just makes it less about the hateful person that it should be pointed toward. Nancy Pelosi is too weak to name names of her own party when they are engaged in religious bigotry... so I'll do it for her. Rep. Ilhan Omar should at a minimum be stripped of her membership in the House Foreign Affairs Committee and be formally censured for her repeated comments of hate toward Jews. Those defending her such as Rep. Rashida Tlaib and Rep. AOC should meet the same treatment. Tolerating this behavior only encourages it.

    Progressives defend Omar, prompting House Dems to delay vote condemning anti-Semitism
     
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    Pointing out hypocrisy is fun and all, but what exactly makes Ilhan Omar hateful and people like Donald Trump not?
     
  14. JoeKing

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    So now you want to compare Omar to Trump? Trump enacted economic policies that made it possible for generations of blacks and Hispanics to get out from under the thumb of government dependency and now have jobs at all time high rates. Is that what a bigot does? The unprecedented outreach by the Trump administration to improve the quality of life for minorities in this country is nothing short of a herculean effort. Trump has a record of outreach to minorities even before he was president. The NAACP awarded him in 1986 for his humanitarian contributions to the black communities. Rep. Omar has a record too but unfortunately, it is a record of anti-Semitic comments even back when she was a Minnesota state representative. When did Omar help Jews in the way Trump has benefited minorities in this country?

    This is not a time for moral equivocation when it comes to the hate expressed by this junior representative toward the Jewish people. The House resolution needs to expressly name her for her hate speech, not be watered down.
     
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  15. Nova

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    I asking specifically on Ilhan Omar's comments vs Donald Trump's comments where people of Jewish faith were the subject.

    What constitutes hatred on Omar's part, but not on Trump's?
     
  16. JoeKing

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    So you are pleading ignorance on the things that Omar has said about Jewish people? To my knowledge, Trump is not accused of making antisemitic statements.
     
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    I'm not pleading ignorance at all, but maybe there are comments I don't know about.

    I would just like to know your justification for calling her hateful when Donald Trump has said equally insensitive things to the same people.

    Trump's 2015 comments during a speech at a Republican Jewish Coalition function.

    "Stupidly, you want to give money. ...You're not going to support me because I don't want your money."
    "I'm a negotiator, like you folks."
    "Is there anyone in this room who doesn't negotiate deals? Probably more than any room I've ever spoken."
     
  18. JoeKing

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    Not knowing is ignorance. Trump is loved by Israel. His daughter and grandchildren are Jewish. I don't recall the Jewish community in an uproar over what he said.
     
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  20. cml750

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    I will henceforth only refer to them as the democRATS. The party has gone completely batcrap crazy. Socialism and political correctness rule that party now. Common sense (not that they ever had much of it) has completely left the building. The last few semi-sane democRATS like Joe Manchin should go ahead and make a party switch to distance themselves from the rest of the crazies.
     
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